Monday, 7 May 2012

John Lyons again! new entry 9/5/12


 John Lyons again!

----- Original Message -----
From: g87
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:35 PM
Subject: Sack the bast....!

Editor The Weekend Australian
Nick Cater,
 
Editor The Australian
Chris Mitchell
 
Dear Mr Cater, Mr Mitchell,
 
My Apologies for mis - spelling your name as Carter below.
When my wife and I return from a 4 - week stay in Israel towards the end of June, I will commence another of my projects: a complete list of the sins of Lyons, Abraham Rabinovitch and the lamentable Martin Chulov.
 
I hope you sack the first two in the interim and surely save me this onerous work.
 
The alternative is for you guys to  keep better control over the anti Isreal diatribe they regularly promulgate!
This is not debatable.
 
 
Regards
Geoff seidner
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: g87
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:37 PM
Subject: Sack the bast....!

Dear Mr Carter,
 
I am appreciative of The Australian's broad attitude to Israel; most of your journalists like the esteemed Greg Sheridan are great.
So are most of your irregular contributors.
 
 
Unfortunately you run international agencies' news stories which are at times dubious.
EG.: AFP, Reuters - who years ago won the prize for dissembling with that INFAMOUS Israeli soldier photo.
 
But I expect better from you guys: you have control over Lyons:  you should sack the basta.....!
He regularly wrecks Mr Murdoch's good name!
 
You have other pathetic writers - like Isaac Rabinowitz: he and Lyons compete which can better abuse the Middle - East's only democracy!Both disgraceful.
How many anti - semitic articles of his / theirs do you want to glibly explain away blaming it on the sub - editor?
I could list 25 biased items over the year or so. Please do not challenge me to delienate details.
 
The sub - editor was indeed merely writing what is egregiously represented in Lyons' article!
Lyons and his predecessor Martin Chulov are representative of the worst of The Age!
 
I understand that your response to me was the result of my email to Rupert Murdoch - see cc above -  and as you have clearly confused my name in mail - merge with a Mr Magar - which should be Magyar  by the way - you have confirmed that many people have complained.
Veciferously, indubitably. Justifiably.
 
Do you want to appoint me as correspondent to Ramalah? Where do I send my resume?
I will need the IDF protection - but promise to lodge decent stories that will give you - my incipient boss - a warm inner glow.
And Mr Murdoch will be pleased; much cheaper than the leftist scams tat Labor is being reported on in your broadly great paper.
Why not read the links - to bring yourself up to speed?
 
 
Kind regards
Geoff Seidner
That is SEIDNER - not Magar or MAGYAR
 
13 Alston Grove East St Kilda 3183
Ph 03 9525 9299
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Cater, Nick
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: The Weekend Australian


Dear Mr Magar

The publication of an inaccurate and misleading headline on page 13 of The Weekend Australian, "Living under the cloud of Israel's cruel apartheid" is a matter of deep regret. The headline was a reference to a contentious view expressed by a person interviewed in the article, and should not have been read as a statement of fact. The Australian rejects any comparison between Israel’s democratic, open and secular civil society and the abhorrent, discriminatory system of government that prevailed in South Africa until 1994.

The Australian has a clear policy of distinguishing fact from opinion, but in this case a poor headline, written against the pressure of deadlines, has let our readers down. We are conducting a review of our production process to ensure that such a serious lapse of editorial standards does not occur again. I will be reminding staff that particular care should be taken in the use of words that are capable of causing offence.

I would like to assure you that The Australian's editorial position towards Israel remains unchanged.

Kind regards


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Dear Mr Murdoch,
I send you the following letter to editor - which will not be published.
Your writer would appreciate a response.
I send you a link that supplies relevant ancilliary masterial


Kindest Regards
Geoff Seidner



:  Geoff Seidner
      13 Alston Grove East St. Kilda 3183
03 9525 9299



PS
 I send you a link to the late, great Kerry Packer ex 1991.




Just who are these 41% - or 27%?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVIOmU3l0Zo

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John Lyons again!

Saturday, The Australian May 5, 2012: 

Living under the cloud of Israel's cruel apartheid



John Lyons as the Middle East Correspondent for The Australian probably would not survive in the Palestinian territories if he lodged factual, contextually - reasonable reports.
But that is no excuse for his regular, many lacerating eviscerations of Israel.

And furthermore, just as an honourable reporter would not accept the job - nor should  The Australian's editor offer the gig to anyone if it invariably necessitates compromising basic journalistic standards.

But I reckon Lyon's  reports are not forced on him:  they are surely heartfelt, warm - inner - glow fantasies:  he regularly writes like this.
His modus vivendi is to intermittently write appropriately - so he can make a mealy - mouthed sine qua non type excuse for his ditribes lambasting the Middle East's only democracy!

His predecessors eg  Martin Chulov was no better.
In 2006 Chulov plainly refused to back away from his lies about that infamous  Red Cross ambulance allegedly attacked by an Israeli missile!
I wrote in vain to The Australian.

They never apologise: continue ad nausium, offer repeats ad  infinitum and perhaps will tell bedtime stories to their grandchildren about their anti - Israel exploits.

Shame on them.
Shame on the Australian for facilitating this travesty.
I wonder whether Mr Rupert Murdoch created the Australian as a vehicle for the anti  - Israel rantings of lousy journalists.
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MISSILE STORY SHIFTING - Tim Blair 

timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/missile_story_shifting/
30 Aug 2006 – The Australian's Martin Chulov, who covered the Red Cross ambulancestory, rejects claims that it was a hoax: I was in Tyre on the night of the ...




  1. Hello, Tim,

    From:  Geoff Seidner
          13 Alston Grove East St. Kilda 3183
          Tel.: 
    ——- Original Message——-
    From: Geoff Seidner
    To: the australian
    Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:19 AM
    Subject: Terminological Inexactitude in Arabia spin

    Terminological Inexactitude in Arabist spin
    Martin Chulov [Media 31/8: Downer’s unfounded faith in the internet] should make clear to his readers that he was far from being an eye - witness to the Red Crescent ambulance being struck by an alleged Israeli missile! The fact that ‘‘I was in Tyre on the night of the attack’’ and ‘’ investigated the incident closely the next day’’ leads one to contemplate why his article clearly implies that his opinion - based on conversations with ‘‘Quassem Shalin who was recovering from a minor wound’’ - has such gravitas as to imply that Foreign Minister Alexander Downer has ‘’...unfounded faith in the internet’‘
    I guess this agnosticism did not apply to those who remember the many stories penned by journalists claiming the destruction of Jenin in 2003 - when only 3% was so damaged. The alleged ‘‘massacre’’ was also a case of fraud - barely apologized for by leading media entities!] In fact - to help with the body count the Palestinians imported live bodies - that were seen as being ambulate just prior to burial. Such is the nature of satelite photography: they were caught!
    Perhaps the most egregious is that the RC is still claiming that Israel attacked their ambulance deliberately. The idiotic immorality of this is merely demonstrated in that not only does Israel not do such things, but to have imputed such adverse masochistic political motivations to this tiny country is not sustainable in any rational forum
    Another thing: why are media referring to ‘Red Cross’’ ambulance? It was surely a Red Crescent ambulance; which begs the perennial question as to why the Israeli Magen David Adom has not been given equal status with Arabian entities?
    Perhaps Chulov’s next article will be entitled: ‘‘The previous statement was inoperable’’
    Posted by gggg on 2006 08 31 at 01:16 AM • permalink





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No apartheid in Israel

MORE disturbing than the context provided in the story by John Lyons on the effect of residency restrictions on Israel's Arab citizens was the headline ("Living under the cloud of Israel's cruel apartheid", 5-6/5). Stigmatising Israel in this manner is an affront to those who endured real apartheid.
Israel's Arab citizens vote in Israel's elections. There are Arab members of parliament and Arab judges in Israeli courts. Jews and Arabs use the same public transport, eat in the same restaurants, get treated at the same hospitals, share the same beaches, theatres and cinemas, shop at the same malls, attend the same public schools and universities and work side by side.
The measures Israel has been forced to take to prevent suicide bombers from the West Bank entering Israel and blowing Israelis to bits do indeed restrict contacts between Israel's Arab citizens and their relatives in the West Bank. But these factors pale in comparison to the way Palestinians are discriminated against in Arab countries.

Peter Wertheim, Executive Council of Australian Jewry, Sydney, NSW
ANYONE familiar with the nature of apartheid in South Africa and the democratic state of Israel will know it is false to charge Israel with being an apartheid state.
The headline above John Lyons's article is a libel that gratuitously misinforms and besmirches Israel.
Merv Morris, St Kilda, Vic

Living under the cloud of Israel's cruel apartheid



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Saturday 05 May 2012



The Australian

Living under the cloud of Israel's cruel apartheid


Author: JOHN LYONS, MIDDLE EAST CORRESPONDENT
Publication: The Australian (13,Sat 05 May 2012)
Edition: 1 - All-round Country
Section: World
Keywords: 3 (1),per (1),cent (1)

Israeli Arabs are subject to unworkable residency restrictions



IN the never-ending conflict in the Middle East, Taiseer Khatib and his wife Lana are part of a new frontline.

But theirs is a battle with a difference: while the conflict usually involves Israelis versus Palestinians, Palestinian Taiseer Khatib is an Israeli citizen.

Born in Akko (Acre) in northern Israel where his family goes back more than 400 years, Khatib married Lana, whose family fled Haifa, in Israel, for Jenin in the West Bank in 1948, upon the formation of Israel.

Under Israeli law, Palestinians from the West Bank are not permitted to migrate to Israel, even if they have a spouse there.

Many Palestinians who live in Israel, officially known by Israel as ``Israeli Arabs'', form relationships with Palestinians in the West Bank.

The issue is a live one due to the size of Israel's Arab population. There are now 1.6 million Arabs in Israel compared with 5.9 million Jews -- 20.5 per of the Israeli population compared with 75.3 per cent being Jewish.

Palestinians who live in East Jerusalem, called ``Jerusalemites'' by Israel, lose their right to residency if they marry a Palestinian and move to the West Bank.

Israel does not allow Palestinians living in Jerusalem to vote in national elections, and if they leave Jerusalem for three years they lose their residency.

But as ``a West Banker'', Lana Khatib can only pass through Israeli army checkpoints into Israel to visit her husband in Akko if she can get a temporary visitor's permit. She currently has a one-year permit but does not know if this will be renewed.

Israel's complicated permit system for Palestinians has led to all kinds of anomalies: for their wedding, she was only able to get a two-day permit, so she had to return to Jenin, 30 minutes drive away, the day after the wedding.

On another occasion she had a two-day permit but overstayed. On her third day a knock at the door sent her into hiding in the kitchen, fearing it was Israeli authorities. It was a neighbour.

``We feel like half-humans,'' Taiseer Khatib told visiting journalists this week. ``Any immigrant who is coming to Israel from Ethiopia or Russia who is new to this city, the minute he puts his feet down at the airport, he has more rights than I have. I'm talking pure racism, which is beyond apartheid. Under apartheid, there were cases where people were allowed to have mixed marriages but she (Lana) is part of me and the state is interfering in my personal choices, getting into my bed, my own room.''

The status of her permits means Lana Khatib, 33, cannot get health insurance, social security or a driving licence. She has an economics degree but is not allowed to work in Israel. Taiseer Khatib, 39, is completing his PhD in anthropology. They have two children, aged four and three.

Israeli law prevents immigration from ``enemy states'' which it defines as Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran and territory governed by the Palestinian Liberation Organisation. This means the entire West Bank, which is under Israeli military occupation.

While Israel and Hamas in Gaza continue to be in conflict, since the law was introduced in 2003 relations between Israel and the West Bank have improved dramatically.

Israel and the Palestinian Authority -- which effectively replaced the PLO -- have security co-operation and Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, described the PA leader Mahmoud Abbas as ``my partner in peace'' at the White House.

Professor Liav Orgad, from the Interdisciplinary Centre in Herzliya, a leading Israeli immigration expert, last year co-authored a paper which said: ``The maintenance of a solid Jewish majority is a necessity for the country's existence and security, a normatively justified means of ensuring the State of Israel's survival. This is particularly the case regarding Palestinian immigrants, who join a large national minority in Israel and may at some future time undermine the `two states for two peoples' solution to the Israel-Arab conflict.''

Professor Orgad now concedes the law relating to the West Bank is outdated. The director of Arab support group the Mossawa Centre, Jafar Farah, says Jewish settlers from the West Bank are turning their attentions to mixed cities in Israel such as Akko.

He says the Arab population of Israel could help bring about peace, having contact with both sides. But an Arab councillor in Akko, Ahmad Odeh, is less hopeful: ``There is no co-existence here. It will explode any minute.''

He says some Arab families have been told their homes are unsafe and that unless they are prepared to pay enormous amounts of money to renovate they must leave. Many are forced to leave because they cannot afford the renovations.

He also says moves such as the council renaming the town's main square from Aboud Square, its name for decades, to Genoa Square are removing the Arab identity. ``They want to see the transfer of Arabs from Akko.''

The Jewish Mayor, Simon Lankry, rejects such suggestions, saying that while Jewish buyers have been buying homes in the Old City, they were doing so for investment reasons.

Mr Lankry concedes relations are delicate but says the council is striving to provide services equally, and the last three new schools have been for Arab students. (Mr Ohed points out that the average number of students at Jewish schools is 450 while at Arab schools the average is 700.)

Mr Lankry says he wants to avoid in Akko the situation occurring in cities such as in Jerusalem where Jewish settler groups are supporting moving Jews into Arab neighbourhoods. The question is whether the voices of moderation or extremism will prevail.





Headline: Living under the cloud of Israel's cruel apartheid
  Author: JOHN LYONS, MIDDLE EAST CORRESPONDENT
  Edition: 1 - All-round Country
 Section: World
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