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Geoff Seidner
Death threats
traduced!.......................................Please note next email
for links
The
Australian and blogger Simon Turnill have plainly confirmed that various
scientists on the Gillard government gravy train had resorted to claiming death
threats that never were.
The
Australian 3 May, 12 May and 19 May.
I
worked this out when this flummery was first floated in 2009 - 10 by leading
scientists: it had to be fraudulent because manifestly nothing was reported to
the police.
When
I aired these views in 2010 on air with Peter Meagher 3AW temporary replacement
for the then ailing Derryn Hinch: he abused me and promptly cut me off.
Meagher
is a true believer and had a need believe warm and cuddly stories.
Clearly,
if there was any Merritt -[sorry for punning the writer at The Oz] in these
claims - any reasonable person would have reported the matter to the police.
And
there are many more links that do these scientists no credit.
Indeed
I emailed my claims to dozens of these scientists sadly esconsed in the world of
climate change study / teaching.
None
have responded.
I
have emailed the ACT police on May 16 and 18 requesting confirmation if any
complaint - was ever lodged and if so - whether they saw fit to investigate
it.
To
date they have not responded; no doubt aware of the political implications.
Which is sad because people guilty of fraud should be charged to demonstrate to
all that police resources cannot be unilaterally abused for political
purposes!
I
know of many cases of people charged with reporting / claiming non - extant
crimes.
Or
- plainly the obverse corollary is that someone should confirm that the matter
was never reported - or was reported and the authorities deigned to not take it
seriously. Which may be the likeliest of the trichotomies.
In
a democratic society the public have a right to know that their interests are
protected.
I
herewith provide a link to much ancillary material.
You
are welcome of course to publish anything here and / thus edit my letter as you
wish.
A
copy of this is being emailed to Chris Merritt - who is also free to publish
whatever he likes.
Confidential:
we are going overseas 9 am Monday morning for 4 weeks: perhaps you may care to
email me on geoffseidner@gmail.com
However
it may be only responded to for several days - or a week or so.
Note
- this email and comments extraneous have been hurriedly prepared.
Somehow
I do not think there are too many errors.
Geoff
Seidner
13
Alston Grove
East
St Kilda 3183
03 9525 9299
03
9525 9290
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Geoff Seidner 13 Alston Grove East St Kilda 3183 03 9525
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We can also have better networks, we need networks of communication so that vulnerable people like the very young and the very old are warned when a heat wave is predicted so they can get medical attention faster.
ADAM HARVEY: And speaking of vulnerable people, Will Steffen says the commission has moved headquarters after threats to staff.
WILL STEFFEN: Well I think that newspaper headline you've got there in front of me called 'Climate of Fear' could actually be turned around to describe what happens in some cases to climate scientists and our staff.
But there've also been direct aggressive and threatening events, physically threatening events to some of my staff. But there were a couple of incidents there which my staff interpreted as being threatening and I think they had very good reason to do so.
I took a whole range of pieces of evidence - email, non-email and so on - to our security people at ANU (Australian National University) who are experts in the field and asked their advice. And their advice obviously taking a rather conservative position to ensure our safety, which is appropriate, that we move to much more secure quarters, which we have.
ELEANOR HALL: That's Climate Commissioner, Will Steffen, ending that report from Adam Harvey.
I have been reading much about the death threats to the
climate change scientists working under your charge in 2009 - 10 at the ANU.
You were vice - chancellor at the time.
The Australian has published many items on this matter -
particularly on May 3, May 11 and May 12.
The article of May 3 quotes you as ''..last night
admitted he did not have any recollection of reading the emails before
relocating the university's researchers.'' I don't believe I did,'' Professor
Chubb told The Australian.
I understand how you must have felt, professor. Much the
same as the Managing Director Scott did to protect famale staff from the
infamous 'cancer clusters' in the ABC's headquarters in QLD a few years
ago.
It was all a nonsense - but the ABC boss also acted in
the best interest of his staff - no matter how abstrucely obtuse it may have
been. And turned out that way.
But he meant well. [I quote from Yes Minister]
[I wonder who resides in the building now?] But I
digress.
The ABC tried to help you on Monday The World Today:
Professor Tim Flannery now has Professor Will Steffen helping as the Governments
other Climate Commissioner.
And Tim does need a lot of help - his predictions have
had a bad habit of being inverted by events.
Sigh. It ain't easy being a Climate Commissioner. The
infantile aliteration does not help.
However the ABC and Steffen tried so hard on Monday to
support you: the listener was sadly left with the impression that Will won't
will not be able to sell the idea that there were death threats - without you
having asked the police to investigate it.
Oh! You did ask the police - did you not?
I know what I would do if my people were threatened with
a dramatic dimunition in their numbers!
It would surely be worse than a budget cut to the 850,000
people teaching climate ascience!?
And worse: under Abbott they could not be replaced with
'natural attrition' being the order of the new neocon nihilistic
revolution!!
So we have to make sure that those flaky emails are taken
seriously by the police.
We cannot afford a 'Fair Work' type deliberate time -
wasting exercise like with the HSU / Craig Thompson, can we?
So I already wrote to the ACT police - am eagerly
awaiting their response.
Can you give me some tips? There must be something you
can add to my pleas that they investigate matters.
I have taken the liberty of sending a copy of this email
to as many climate scientists as I could find in a few minutes.
Surely - some of them received death threats too? Please
ask them to communicate direct with me so I can look over their 'death - threat'
events. We have to co ordinate terminological inexactitudes - no overlap in
verbiage; please reinforce this!
I have found a few links - some not so generous: please
do not lower yourself to a level that will elicit threats to these WWII
holocaust deniers.
ONE of the nation's leading carbon-pricing
experts has described as "unrealistic in the extreme" Treasury's budget forecast
of a $29-a-tonne carbon price in 2015-16, and warned of a multi-billion-dollar
risk to the budget and a failure of the scheme to change emissions behaviour if
a floor price is not maintained.
Frank Jotzo, the deputy director of the Australian
National University's Climate Change Institute, told The Australian an
oversupply of credits in the UN's Clean Development Mechanism meant carbon
prices would stay low and a more realistic estimate was $5.
This would mean that in 2015-16, the carbon price in
Australia would fall to the $15 floor price when the carbon pricing scheme,
which begins on July 1 with a $23-a-tonne fixed price, switches to a floating
price three years later.
Dr Jotzo was a key adviser to the Garnaut climate change
review. He presented a report on floor pricing to the multi-party climate change
committee that negotiated the climate change scheme passed by parliament last
year, and is a lead author on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's
fifth assessment report. He said the likely cost to revenue could be about $3
billion if the carbon price was at the floor price in 2015-16 rather than the
$29 predicted by Treasury.
His assessment of the Treasury price forecast was backed
by Deutsche Bank analyst Tim Jordan, who said that, on current policies, it was
unlikely that the carbon price would be $29 in 2015.
"In the global carbon market, offsets from developing
countries are continuing to grow strongly, and there aren't many new sources of
demand before 2015," Mr Jordan said. "The global carbon market looks
oversupplied, and on that basis we'd expect the price to remain below the
Australian price floor of $15."
Mr Jordan said Treasury tended to anchor its revenue
estimates using market prices.
"In the case of other commodities, like coal or oil,
there's a liquid forward market, so the forward prices are a good guide to
market expectations," he said.
"But the carbon market is very illiquid out to 2015.
That's why they used their earlier projection of $29."
The price forecasts echo research by Bloomberg New Energy
Finance predicting the carbon price could be as low as $4 by 2020.
Wayne Swan's spokesman referred The Australian to
Treasury's budget explanation of its reasons for maintaining the modelling it
produced for the Clean Energy Future package that predicted $29 in
2015-16.
Treasury's explanation pointed to a high degree of
volatility in carbon market prices in the four years to July last year and the
possibility that the EU would consider policy options to increase the current
low prices in the EU scheme.
Both Dr Jotzo and Bloomberg have warned that an increase
in EU prices may not have any impact on the international price. This is because
the European scheme is reaching its caps in the purchase of UN CDM units, which
will decouple the scheme from the prevailing international price.
The Australian scheme allows 50 per cent of units to be
imported from international markets, meaning the CDM price and the floor price
will largely set the pricing in the domestic scheme.
Dr Jotzo said this showed the floor price in the carbon
pricing scheme needed to be retained to preserve the integrity of the whole
scheme.
Otherwise, the whole scheme would have minimal effect on
investment decisions and therefore little impact on emissions levels.
AFTER triggering a global news event with reports
about death threats against climate scientists, the ABC and Fairfax Media are
under investigation by Media Watch after a central plank supporting their
reports was found to be non-existent.
Before the flaws in their reports were revealed, their
versions of the truth had been picked up by Britain's The Guardian and the
scientific journal Nature.
The critical error in their reports, which has been
revealed by The Australian, is that emails held by the Australian National
University that were supposed to outline death threats against climate
scientists have been independently assessed as containing no death
threats.
Those emails were made public on Tuesday after a long
Freedom of Information campaign by blogger Simon Turnill.
But when ABC radio chose to report on the affair
yesterday, it did not reveal that the ABC had reported on June 5 last year that
ANU climate scientists "have been targeted by death threats"
Others who gave credence to the "death threats" story
were Lateline presenter Tony Jones, who asked Chief Scientist Ian Chubb on June
22 last year whether he was worried that scientists were receiving death
threats.
"Oh, absolutely," Professor Chubb replied. "I mean, I
think it's appalling."
Media Watch executive producer Lin Buckfield said
yesterday one of her program's researchers was examining reports on the affair
that had been carried by The Australian, ABC news, Lateline andThe Canberra
Times. "If through our inquiries we decide that an item is
warranted, we will proceed accordingly," she
said.
The Canberra Times published the first news of death
threats against climate scientists in June last year. It said the problem was
not confined to the ANU and that academics elsewhere were at risk.
The credibility of the rest of The Canberra Times's
allegations is yet to be tested. But the paper's reporting concerning death
threats at ANU is in tatters, as are the associated reports by the
ABC.
The Australian has reported that 11 emails supposed to
contain details of the "death threats" at ANU were independently examined by
federal Privacy Commissioner Timothy Pilgrim as part of Mr Turnill's FOI
campaign.
Mr Pilgrim said they contain abuse but no death
threats.
"I have determined that 10 of the documents, in the form
of emails, do not contain threats to kill or threats of harm. These documents
contain abuse in the sense that they contain insulting and offensive language,"
Mr Pilgrim's ruling says.
Of the one remaining email, Mr Pilgrim found: "In my
view, the exchange as described in the email could be regarded as intimidating
and at its highest perhaps alluding to a threat."
When ABC radio reported on the contents of those emails
yesterday it focused on the abuse -- not the fact that they provide documentary
evidence that the ABC produced flawed reports that have not been
corrected.
Geoff Seidner
13 Alston Grove
East St Kilda
3183
03 9525 9299
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